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    Beach fishing & swimmers

    I was fishing the west beach several blocks west of the public beach, alone no other fisherman or swimmers around. Eventually some kids came down and were swimming appx. 50 yard from me no problem. A Gulf Shores beach patrol cop came up to me and said no fishing within 100 yds. of swimmers. I said " I was here first ,for the last hour or so" . He said " it doesn't matter you have to move". By then there was no 200 yd. space open (no swimmer on either side) so I quit. Does anybody know about this or have any input/info? thx jjm

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    Wow!
    I see where this is going VVVV

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    That said news to me. Only spot I heard that was a rule was the public beach. I’d call city hall and ask for a copy of the ordinance.
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    This is what I've been saying about the so-called Shark Fishing Ordinance for years.

    “It shall be unlawful within three hundred feet of the shoreline, or on a public pier, or on a private pier where an unsafe condition is created, on or in waters of Alabama under the jurisdiction of the Marine Resources Division as provided by Rule 220-2-.42, to fish for or target sharks or any species by those methods commonly known as ‘chumming’ or ‘bloodbaiting.’
    “For purposes of this regulation, ‘chumming’ shall be defined as the throwing of bait or fish parts into the water to attract fish.

    “For purposes of this regulation, ‘bloodbaiting’ shall be defined as the use of blood, chemical or synthetic attractants, fish parts, chicken parts or other animal parts to attract fish or sharks.
    “It shall be unlawful, on or adjacent to the waters of Alabama under the jurisdiction of the Marine Resources Division as provided by Rule 220-2-.42, for any person to surf fish for sharks, bow fish for sharks, or fish for or target sharks by any other means from any pier or beach in such a manner that presents an unsafe condition to any beach goers, sun bathers, swimmers, or any other person.”
    It is worded so that any fishing near any beachgoer can be construed as posing a hazard to the touristas.
    It is so loosely written that ANY Fishing within 300' of the beach can be prohibited, especially fishing with any type of bait.

    And as in this case, we the fishermen will be the ones moving or being cited, all any beach goer has to do is complain.
    And Lord forbid you get some tree hugging , bunny loving, granola cruncher who is willing to lie about your actions/words towards them, you could well find yourself arrested.

    This exactly why I prefer to surf and/or shark fish in remote spots, e.g. Ft. Morgan, that or I go to Florida where I am the one protected from harassment by law.
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    Wow! I don't think he was correct, and it's worth checking out. This ordinance was written so as not to attract sharks to the beach and I don't see other species mentioned at all. I don't believe you'd be fishing for sharks or chumming in any manner so as to cause a danger to swimmers, therefore I don't interpret it as a violation of that ordinance. Let us know what y'all find out jjfish.
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    Jim, did you get the name of the Gulf Shores beach patrol cop?
    Please don't post it, but rather PM or tell Todd or Chris and see what they think is best way to handle this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fshntime View Post
    Wow! I don't think he was correct, and it's worth checking out. This ordinance was written so as not to attract sharks to the beach and I don't see other species mentioned at all. I don't believe you'd be fishing for sharks or chumming in any manner so as to cause a danger to swimmers, therefore I don't interpret it as a violation of that ordinance. Let us know what y'all find out jjfish.
    Really Todd, you don't? Reading comprehension for the win brother.

    "... or any species..."
    "...the throwing of bait or fish parts into the water to attract fish."
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    in any manner so as to cause a danger to swimmers"

    It's right there, any species and any bait, they can interpret that any way they wish, and they do.
    Swimmers have the right of way and you better danged well yield to them.

    “It shall be unlawful within three hundred feet of the shoreline, or on a public pier, or on a private pier where an unsafe condition is created, on or in waters of Alabama under the jurisdiction of the Marine Resources Division as provided by Rule 220-2-.42, to fish for or target sharks or any species by those methods commonly known as ‘chumming’ or ‘bloodbaiting.’
    “For purposes of this regulation, ‘chumming’ shall be defined as the throwing of bait or fish parts into the water to attract fish.
    Ragnar Benson:
    Never, under any circumstances, ever become a refugee.
    Die if you must, but die on your home turf with your face to the wind, not in some stinking hellhole 2,000 kilometers away, among people you neither know nor care about.

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    When this law was passed in 2008, that point was brought up that it is too 'loosely' written and can be interpreted to halt ANY fishing at any time from the beach (or pier) at the officer's discretion.
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    No I did not get his name or badge number. I was so surprised with the situation that it slipped my mind .My bad! thx

 

 
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