berkley nanofil

yall need to check this out pretty neat but it only goes within 6 and 12 pound test maybe there still working on it. what do yall think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-FT7t7teMw

I've heard good things about this stuff. Just might test it on my inshore setups.

[size=12pt]That must be some good stuff!
150 yard spool of 12# is $19.99 at Academy Sports.
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ya seems to much for me though maybe if i can find a good deal

I will check into this line over the next few months and provide a report.

Though I'm not very fond of Berkley products released in the past, this looks more promising. Would like to see the 1# diameter and action.

Thanks for the link.

Not cheap, plus 300 yard spool is just double a 150, no discount. Knots are an issue with something that thin and slick. One pound test, .001 diameter? Of course you're the ultralight guy VG, with the skills to make that work.

It makes Suffix 832 look bargain priced but if it helps deliver the distance it could be worth it. The testing last year in saltwater sportsman mag suggested that it breaks a bit higher than listed but then so do most lines.

Makes momoi illusion look cheap. I can't see what braid does that it doesn't. Both guys who waited on me at j @ m said illusion has mermory issues, but so far I've had none when I treat with line conditioner. Casts further than anything I have used. I can see how the thinner diameter of the nanofil might help for some things. Just thinking aloud here....looking at it in a store, it seemed to me like it would be bad to break during a cast. Maybe not.

I finally picked some up as promised.

Seems very strong to be so hair thin.

Does not fray at all.

My gripe is that it is too slick for knots.

Double uni? Gotta wrap it 10-15 times for a secure hold line to line.

Going to play with kings and reds on 4# and will report back to this thread.

Alright, as promised, here is my report thus far:

As far as the pier testing is concerned, out of 6 Kings, 2 were landed without any issues, while the other 4 were successfully fought, but got eaten by sharks (one lost to a wave in a pylon).

I did my tests with the 4# test version... as we observed on the pier, it is hair thin. Obtained a spool at Bass Pro Shops in Spanish Fort, AL.

NF3004-CM (Bright White Line called Clear Mist)
0.004 (Thickness)
4# (Tested--actually breaks around 7.5#s of flat stress)
300 Yard Spool will run you about $40.00.

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[size=8pt]KNOTS: [/size] Forget tying this line to a swivel or hook. You MUST double uni this line to mono. So far, 100% line strength can be achieved with an average of 14 wraps of nanofil around the mono line. You can add some super glue to the knot to help if that's your preference. One thing I noticed was it works best NOT adding moisture when cinching the d-uni down. The line is so smooth, it did not damage the mono during dry cinching. It did hold well with d-uni to braid as well, but still requires at least 12 wraps to achieve 100% line strength at the knot. If you tie this line directly to a hook, lure, swivel, etc, it loses almost 50% of its strength instantly. Perhaps this is OK in some situations because you won't lose much line when the break occurs at the knot.

[size=8pt]STRENGTH: [/size] Line is about twice as strong as its listed test based on flat strength alone. Very similar to Power Pro: Super Slick 8--does not appears as strong as PP:SS8, but has the advantage of being thinner for the same strength.

[size=8pt]APPEARANCE: [/size] The version I had was bright white clear mist, and very visible. It seems just as visible in the water as it did out of the water, so I can imagine fish would see it in really clear water. It did not dig into the spool like braids sometimes can, but if there is not pressure on a retrieve (such as after a cut off), the line is too stiff to properly reseat itself flat in the spool, so some minor inner loopage occurs. Does have a little memory.

[size=8pt]CASTING: [/size] It casts further than any line I have tried, and even with wind loops, you can feel anything taking place at the end of your line. Very sensative. While it didn't far exceed PP:SS8 at first in casting distance, once a liberal coating of KVD Line Conditioner was added, I'd say it cast at least 25% further.

[size=8pt]DURABILITY: [/size] So far, I have not had any signs of fraying or wear. Line is holding up to the extreme sun and water conditions. Most debris slips off because of the thinness and slickness of the line, so it is easy to keep clean.

[size=8pt]SENSATIVITY: [/size] The line gives some of the best feel at the lure I have witnessed. While it is zero stretch, the fact that it loops a little helps provide a little shock action. Unbelieveably, it almost feels like mono when working it rather than braid. Caught me by surprise there. The line does seem to float, so works really well with top water and suspended lures as well.

[size=8pt]CONCLUSION: [/size] I would say this line is a contender for PP:SS8 for sure. It has much less fray, is thinner, casts further, and is about the same price. However, it is also slightly weaker, more visible to fish and is too smooth for its own good when it comes to knot strength. I will give it a 4 out of 5 overall. Personally, I still think PP:SS8 has the advantage in terms of overall effectiveness, and I feel more confident when using it. I still feel this sense of Nanofil failing on me when I need it to succeed the most due to knot issues.

I will still offer my recommendation for others to try it out, but for the money, it may be too pricey to be worth the few advantages it offers.


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thanks snow dog for the info

300 Yard Spool will run you about $40.00 ???

Maybe the 'generic' will be cheaper ::)

I see reports that a 17lb version and perhaps a 14 are being added beyond the current top of 12.

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300 Yard Spool will run you about $40.00 ???

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Thats a whole lotta money to loose when a big fish spool yah!!!!
I'll stick to good old fashioned monofilament thank you.

Well, after what happened with my tarpon today, I will not be running further tests with this product.

It's just too smooth.

I was hooked up on a good 120#+ tarpon with 6# test berkley nanofil. Yeah, I know it was a bit outmatched, but I know how to play big fish with light tackle, so it was GAME ON. :headbang:

After 26 minutes, there was a failure, and not due to breaking the line or being spooled.

No. Instead, despite being wrapped 15 TIMES in a double uni line to line knot (including a crossover), the berkley nanofil was SO smooth, that it merely slid loose from the knot at the backing knot.

No matter how hard you try, the knots for this line just don't hold and will cost you the big fish.

I will continue to endorse Power Pro: Super Slick 8 as a line capacity filler until I find a better contender for thin non-mono lines.

I too enjoy old fashioned monofilament, CarlF. It simply gets the job done. :bow: