every time i throw an eel out for or at a ling, that thing ALWAYS ties himself in a knot :wall:, any tips as to how to prevent this????????
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every time i throw an eel out for or at a ling, that thing ALWAYS ties himself in a knot :wall:, any tips as to how to prevent this????????
How are you rigging your eels?
use a double rig with two size 2 treble hooks with 40 pound mono leader. thats what i use.
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use a double rig with two size 2 treble hooks with 40 pound mono leader. thats what i use.
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This is just another way to end up with a horrible knot. For throwing live brown eels, use a heavy duty treble hook or a j hook. I prefer the owner octopus hook. You hook the eel just under the skin directly behind the head, being sure not to go so deep that you kill the eel. As for keeping them from tying themselves in a knot, place the eel in a bucket with about 4 inches of water and a couple of handfuls of ice in it. This will keep the eel tying itself in a knot when you throw it.
pier pest, i have a question you catch most of the ling i see on here so what do use mostly jigs,eels,or live bait?
From the pier I have caught two on jigs and one on a live alewife. It all depends on what the fish are doing as to how I fish for them. Eels are great for the boat but don't work from the pier ecause you cannot throw them well. Usually if the fish has gotten that close to the pier it has been spooked from bombing by jigs.
i get you, all the advice really helps cuz i want to catch my first ling this year hoping it happens :yay:
another thing i see what your saying about the live eels but what about an artificial eel?
Good luck. Ling fishing involves a lot of waiting and luck.
Most of the artificial eels come Pre rigged
ok thanks...again
You also have to be willing to push away from the rail when the kings are chewing down the pier and keeping your eyes on the water looking east.
well if the kings are running i dont think imma be ling fishing! :)
That's the biggest thing. When I caught mine last year the kings were running really good.
yea that musta sucked you sittin there looking for ling while everybody else was hookin up
Not really. Kings run all summer and ling get my adrenalin pumping, not to mention they taste way better
+1 true very true!
this is for DRH, i was rigging them with one size 2 treble and a wire leader (caught alot of crap for that by the way) i saw kingkiller7255's suggestion, you agree?
well not really trying to give you crap but what exactly was the purpose of the wire leader? A. cobia do not have teeth. 2. Kings do not eat eels. and C. cobia are prone to be leader shy so guess im saying theres no need for wire. 60 lb flouro will do the job just fine
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well not really trying to give you crap but what exactly was the purpose of the wire leader? A. cobia do not have teeth. 2. Kings do not eat eels. and C. cobia are prone to be leader shy so guess im saying theres no need for wire. 60 lb flouro will do the job just fine
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ya, piont made, of coarse, i was just a beginer, a googan if you wil, when this happened, only did it once, we all make some gogan mistakes, gotta learn from them, i got some 80lb mono, will that work just as well?
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well not really trying to give you crap but what exactly was the purpose of the wire leader? A. cobia do not have teeth. 2. Kings do not eat eels. and C. cobia are prone to be leader shy so guess im saying theres no need for wire. 60 lb flouro will do the job just fine
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+1
[/quote]I have to disagree on the 2nd statement, I was fishing the SKA Venice tournament in 2003 and we won the tournament fishing with silver eels. This may not work on the pier, but Kings will destroy a well presented eel.
Silver eels yes. Cobia prefer sand eels and that is usually what you are buying for live bait.
silver eels work really good for king there almost like a long belly strip that is flashy so silver eels are one of the best king bait ive used
are y'all talking about ribbin fish? i've caght some 40-45lb kings on those suckers, fantastic for king, not great for casting though.
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are y'all talking about ribbin fish? i've caght some 40-45lb kings on those suckers, fantastic for king, not great for casting though.
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Yeah ribbonfish, silver eels and cutlassfish are all the same critter.
Your wire leader may have aided your eel in tying itself up. Use a 50-80# mono or better yet fluoro. When I fish with eels, I use a bucket pretty much as pest recommended. The only three things I do differently or additionally are: 1. rotate cold canned drinks or bottled water from my cooler 2. shade the bucket with a towel 3. put a clothespin on the bucket handle. The first thing with the cans or bottles in lieu of ice is something I do with any livebait since I'm concerned about melting ice adding chlorine and other chemicals to the water as well as diluting the salinity. This maybe something that I'm over thinking and with eels being so hardy you could get away with ice. Shading the bucket helps keep bait cool and lively. I also think that when you keep them in relative darkness they will seek darkness once you cast them. Every eel I've ever cast from a shaded bucket immediately swims toward the bottom. Finally, clipping your leader in the clothespin puts your eel on a leash so to speak by not giving it enough slack to wrap itself around the leader.
Dang who knew a typo would take us so far off topic. DRH the reason we don't use water bottles or coke cans is in case we get in rough seas it can kill the eel by banging into it. We don't use a rag becase we are usually in the tower and its something else to get caught on the hook. Every second counts as we found out two years ago prefishing a tournament when we pulled up on a fish pushing 100lbs. Missed our chance at the fish because she wouldn't touch a jig and the eel rod got tangled up in the rag on the bucket.
Pest, I was referring to using eels from a pier, when from a boat it is an entirely different subject. You bring up valid points on why not do it my way from a boat. I have brought eels on some of the Florida piers in the past, but doubt I ever will again. If I cast one out on a set rod, they'll wind up in knots. Using an eel as sight cast bait has a very limited casting range as you mentioned earlier.