GSP vs Others, What Makes The Crowd Here So Much Better?

It is a crying shame to see such as this posted, a report about out of control Googan Pier Rats.
I'm curious, I don't see this from the younger crowd at GSP, and I don't think the responsible adult regulars would tolerate it.

What the heck am I yapping about?
This post at PFF, Pier Rats gone berserk @ Navarre,...Police called ! ! - Pensacola Fishing Forum

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The redneck Riviera pier rats @ Navarre Pier really out did themselves this morning....about 10:30 a local rat yells ......." GET OFF THE F$*`N RAIL BITCHES...... I GOT A COBIA ! ! ! ".......
As everyone scurried to obey the barbarian voice of the pothead, a young boy was knocked down and trampled.....
He was there with his older brother and his ..... MOTHER,....she was not happy ! ! ..... The language only worsened as the reprobate wrestled his prize into possession......( get the F`n gaff bitch )......all in all a very embarrassing spectacle for all but about 6 or 7 of the local THC addicts....
The Lady from the office was summoned and the boys mother called police.....the main perpertrator was long gone......showed up later....

When is it going to end guys ? ? ..... When is Pier Management going to put up a sign along with the sign that says you will be Banned for not Paying ????....When is Santa Rosa County going to realize what is going on...? Will it take an injury lawsuit ? ? ? Who wants to see children injured ? ?

Why do these nasty mouth punks own the finest pier in the Gulf.......? .. ?.....why .............anybody have an answer ?

How utterly sad,ridiculous,and dangerous will it become............unbelievable......

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There was 2 that got nasty with me a few weeks ago when I was fishing there but that didn't last long when I went from the nice guy that you all know to the much darker version of me that I don't let come out very often, the turds decided it would be in there best interest to leave.

It's a lot like letting yourself be treed by piss ants, don't tolerate rudeness and foul mouths. I hate it for the folks at Navarre, but if the adults and the management allow it to happen it will continue. The GSSP is a treasure and we should treat it that way period.

Well my experience at the pier has been very fun. The only time I heard real bad language was a woman dropping the bomb over and over when about 15 people hooked up on reds!

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Originally Posted by david lea

It's a lot like letting yourself be treed by piss ants, don't tolerate rudeness and foul mouths. I hate it for the folks at Navarre, but if the adults and the management allow it to happen it will continue. The GSSP is a treasure and we should treat it that way period.

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Well said David, there is a treasure here, never fished the other but disrespect for the kiddos is intolerable, I personally would not stand by and allow it to happen in front of me, much like most everyone in this forum wouldn't.

I fished Navarre quite a bit(more than GSP) past year and didn't have many problems. That being said, I have been fishing GSP almost exclusively this year again. The pier changed ownership earlier this year and since then it hasn't been quite the same. They removed all the benches from the pier(weren't many to begin with), took out the kitchen(don't believe Ms Pat is cooking breakfast any more which is a real bummer), and maintenance and keep up seem to have deteriorated a bit. It is about a 15 min more drive there over GSP. Yes they get mahi, sailfish, and blackfin tuna and I want to try to catch some, but I think I will stick with GSP for the most part. At least there I have somewhere to sit, in shade mind you, don't have to walk half a mile to get to the bathroom, and I have what I consider a tight knit family that genuinely cares about the facilities as well as the people around them. Choice is pretty easy.

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Youngsters only get away with what they are allowed to get away with. I detest anyone dropping F bombs in public, particularly when ladies and children are present.

The regulars on the pier are to be commended for making the GSFP what it is---I've seen different people correct the youngsters when they need it, but more importantly, they will help newcomers be included in the "pier family"---making them feel welcome and a part of what's going on.

I think this forum is an extremely important part of the positive atmosphere because we talk to each other on the forum when we can't be together on the pier. There's a lot more agreement than disagreement, and the folks I correspond with on here have obviously been "raised right".
We provide good examples for the most part with the possible exception of that notorious reprobate, Pier#r---he's so rowdy and unfriendly. Yeah, right.

I don't have a problem in the world with calling the pier house to report problems and letting those who are paid to do so, handle them.

GSP is a different world than what I grew up fishing. Piers in south florida can hold some of the best fishing around but also have some of the biggest low lifes. The lake worth pier use to have locals that would rope off the end of the pier (no T) and not allow anyone else to fish. Like they owned it. These were not kids either. I've seen everything from fights, drugs and even a stabbing. I've fished places where if you weren't carrying a gun you might lose your gear. Dont take the GSP for granted. Its a beautiful place and always a pleasure to fish. I'm very glad I stumbled on the old forum a few years ago and took my first trip down. The locals are amazing.

I spent several days at Navarre in June hitting all three piers in the area between morning and afternoon sessions. I am not sure the "management" is to blame for the benches since it is a county pier; they just operate the pier house/restaurant and the pier staff did come out when I reported a couple of brats trying to jack up flipper with an extra large treble and bait. There did seem to be a younger and less polite crowd than in the past. Okaloosa pier came up a notch from the past on the civility scale, and even Pensacola was civilized at 5:30 am (too early to cuss, I guess).

Gulf Shores just has a climate that's different. Good examples breed good copycats just as bad examples breed worse behavior.

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Originally Posted by Haywire

I think this forum is an extremely important part of the positive atmosphere because we talk to each other on the forum when we can't be together on the pier. There's a lot more agreement than disagreement, and the folks I correspond with on here have obviously been "raised right".
We provide good examples for the most part with the possible exception of that notorious reprobate, Pier#r---he's so rowdy and unfriendly. Yeah, right.

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Ahh, so you've seen my pier fishing t-shirt ;-)
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LOL!

I never have problems with the regards but it seems when a tourist first time out there thinks they own the pier and the most problem I've had is when the sheepshead were spawning the tourists thought they owned the whole octi and tried starting crap

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Originally Posted by FinChaser

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I cant believe you didnt take this opportunity to photoshop a bunch of local pier rats heads into this photo. Lol!

A lot of the piers in Florida have issues with the regulars. From the Pensacola Pier all the way to White Street Pier in Key West.

I'd say the friendliest of them all is Jacksonville.

None of them compare to the people we have at GSSP though. They have better fish, but we have better fishermen. I'd rather fish amongst friends if you ask me.

I've been fishing off hssp pier since the old pier was built. I've numerous friends and all are willing to help. I also do my best to pay it forward. I've fished the Florida piers but just don't have as good a time with their crowd as I do in Gulf Shores. Its awesome and you guys ate the reason why. Thank you...

Wow! This thread is an eye-opener. I have not been to any of the other piers in this general vicinity in years if not decades. I assumed that the way that people on the Gulf Shores Pier was the norm: people being friendly, helpful and very few "bombs" being dropped. My sincere thanks to the regulars and the management for keeping it this way.

Thanks again,
Loyal
PS Hope to visit soon.

The people make all the difference.

"Good examples breed good copycats."---Midwestextile.

Exactly right. A smile gets a smile in return and the whole atmosphere is better. If you see a hopelessly inept beginner and grin as you say, "Here, let me show you a better way to do that," instead of just saying "You're dumb and clumsy. I'll show you how, then get out of my way," they will respond better and might even believe you if you tell them the fish will bite better back toward the bathrooms.

Sure, there are always those people who are unfriendly and unrelentingly stupid, but you try to avoid them just like you avoid cowflops in the pasture and go on enjoying the day.

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Originally Posted by Haywire

but more importantly, they will help newcomers be included in the "pier family"---making them feel welcome and a part of what's going on.

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we have never felt anything but welcome at the pier. that's why we will continue to come back. we fished navarre one day on our last trip and doubt we will do that again. not a bad experience, just not the friendly atmosphere like GSPP. thank you so much for welcoming us into the "family" even if it is only a few days a year.

I moved to Gulf Shores this past September Always loved pier fishing and have been fishing the pier since September Don t say much but observe a lot. You gentlemen are a rare breed in todays world. Everything they say about you is true I've seen it time and time again since September. You are to be commended. You are real. You are appreciated. I try to do my part in my own way now and will continue to do more as I learn but quite frankly I just try to stay out of ya ll 's way and observe and learn for I just don t see how anyone can do it better. It is a pleasure just being associated with men of your caliber.

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Originally Posted by CarlF

The people make all the difference.

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Yep. +1 Lots of good folks at GSSP.

I have fished the Panama City Beach county and city piers a good bit the last couple of years. I just do not meet as many friendly and helpfull people there. I also believe the forum helps a lot to educate people on good pier behavior. I encourage all of you to tell people about the forum when you are talking with them on the pier. Many do not know about it. I personally find the GSP the best group of pier fisherman I have been around. Thanks Guys and Gals. I also like the monitoring done on the forum to keep it clean.