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Can somebody start from the beginning and tell me how to set my rod and reel up for Spanish/kings using the bubble rigs? I understand how to use and fish with them , however , I always tend to break off at my liter. Even a freshly tied one. What kind of line , and knots should I be using? I understand that you have to check your line occasionally for frays and wat not. But I seem to weaken the integrity of my mono leader with my knot. So what knot is best?
Uni knot , never fails !Quote:
Originally Posted by Macourt52
Not exactly sure I follow where the line is failing??
For my bubble rigs, I use 50# mono. I tie a long loop on the "bubble end", thread on a bead, then the bubble.
Then I tie my main line directly to the top of the 50# loop. I use a uni-knot for this.
http://www.gulfshorespierfishing.com...tid=5769&stc=1
That really helps out a lot. The place where my line was failing was at the barrel swivel. That's how I connected my leader. Also used a bead , but the line would weaken there. Not sure of what a uni knot is..... but I will google it. The way you do it takes away the barrel swivel , thus eleviating my problem. So the hoop goes through the bubble and then it never has to go through it again , correct?
The uni knot My 'go to' knot for mono line.
http://www.in-fisherman.com/files/20..._UniknotA1.jpg
I may be confusing you , sorry. What I meant was , can the bubble slide up and down on the main line side?
Mine does , never been a problem
Thank you. All I use in ky is the polimar knot. I just wanna know before I get down there. Hey Carl , have you heard of that pier at four seasons condo is still shallow? Or have the recent weather conditions pulled some of the sand out?
Sometimes the bubble slides up while casting but then goes back down on the start of the retrieve.
Swivels are just one more piece of metal for a Spanish mac to swipe at, so I don't use them on bubble rigs.
No idea about 4 Seasons, I've never fished it, haven't been on that part of the beach since the active part of the oil spill.
You guys have made it simple! Thanks for the advice. Detailed advice. If anyone knows the four season pier situation , I'd love to know if it's still shallowed up.
it was shallow last time i was there, but still quite fishable. it's been a minute since i've been but i'd give it a look if you're going to be there. fish can be caught.
The Palomar not is your problem , I bass fishing 300 + days a year and have caught 33 bass over 10 lbs so I kinda have made lots of mistakes and found stuff that works over the years , when u set the hook hard and fast on a Palomar not , the way it's tied will causes it to break on fast hooks sets , figured this out with short lines bed fishing one year , uni knot a whole lot strongerQuote:
Originally Posted by Macourt52
300 days a year??? Nice. I plan on doing that too if I hit the lottery. What a life !!
:cool::oI work to , but have a camp on caney lake here in Louisiana , it has the last three state records out of it up to 15.97 lbs , I can lower the boat down and go , only 30 min from the house , makes it convenientQuote:
Originally Posted by Macourt52
That's sweet. Have you ever tried the rattlesnake soft lure? Made by Grande Bass?
I have not , mainly use power worms (10inch) , jigs and brush hogsQuote:
Originally Posted by Macourt52
I tie my bubbles up ahead of time using at least 50lb. or better leader and put a swivel as close to the bubble on each side. When I tie the leader on for the straw I usually make it fairly long that way when it gets frayed I just cut a few inches off and retie. I always use a uni-knot and only problem is making sure it gets on the hook or swivel the way it is suppose to. If your not careful one of the loops might get behind the eye and mess the whole thing up. Usually use 60lb. leader line seems to work better than saying using 60lb.Big game line. One other thing I do is make sure when I tie the leader on so that when I pull on it will be trying to pull the stem into the bubble. A lot of people don't think it matters but I have seen people tie it the other way and when they pop it the stem comes loose and lets the water out.
Thanks Robert. I'm trying to visualize your setup. It sounds good. Just trying to see it in my mind. If you have a diagram I'd like to see it. If not , I can figure it out surely. Thanks for all yalls help. I just wanna be prepared for the bite!
Forgot to mention that you don't ever want to use shiny or gold swivels. Spanish and Blues will go after the flash and cut your line. What I would do is go hang out and see what everyone is doing and if you need advice just ask. Haven't met anybody on the GSPP that wouldn't be willing to help out.
Forgot to mention never ever use shiny or gold swivels. Spanish and Blues will hit the flash and cut your line.
Something similar to this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Macourt52
http://forum.gon.com/attachment.php?...1&d=1236438041
I tie mine just like Tato and Chillinfish do except I usually have a second swivel on the top end that prevents the bubble from moving around on the cast. Never had a problem with Spanish hitting the swivel at the bubble.
Thanks for the pic chillinfish. So your main line can be braid?
I tie same as fshntime I use two black figure 8 swivels placing the bubble in between on about 4-5 inches of mono Run the leader line from the bottom figure 8 and I actually use a black snap swivel on my main line so I can change colors quickly if need be and just clip to the top figure 8 I don't even use a bead anywhere Keep it simple When the spanish are there it's not going to matter I'd also suggest putting super glue or Shoe Goo from Walmart on the middle seam of your bubble Keeps the bubble from coming apart and Shoe Goo acts like a rubber bumper to keep the bubble from cracking if you hit the rail or something Good Fishing !!
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Originally Posted by Macourt52
Yes BUT, if you hook a king mackerel your line can contact and CUT the mono of those fishing near you and make you really unpopular. I use braid on a Spanish outfit but usually in the area before you get to the octi so as to avoid cutting other people's line. The last time I fished(late October) I used braid to try to reel my fish in quicker. The sharks were following gotcha lures and eating the Spanish as soon as they bit the gotcha. I also use two swivels like fshntime said. The picture was grabbed off the web. Good luck!