I have been sharing the news cast on FB where the sharks were thick around the T. Several friends have shared it from my post. Maybe a potential negative impact on tourism will get the squeaky wheel some oil...
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I have been sharing the news cast on FB where the sharks were thick around the T. Several friends have shared it from my post. Maybe a potential negative impact on tourism will get the squeaky wheel some oil...
I saw it too and didn’t realize how bad it really was. What areas of the pier are the worst for sharks?
Or it'll get more tourists down there that wanna see the wildlife!
The greatest concentration is wherever mackerel are being caught. This can be on the octi or down the draw. There is a steady presence near the cleaning tables, but not the concentration you get when mackerel are being caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indiana87
They especially love kings as they are easier to take off a line. Spanish* you can skip like a stone over the top of the water, especially if they make a jump to get you started, but kings are going to stay in the water and that makes them shark meat.
*Edit: depending on size, the smaller they are the easier they are to skip, the important thing is to take advantage of a jump and keep them from getting a purchase on the water afterwards.
What kind of sharks are they?
Blacktips and spinners are the most numerous and easy to identify. I have seen some I think were bulls and lemons, but they are hard to identify in the water, especially since I am not very good at identifying them. Lord knows what else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nimakdm
We usually see some larger predatory (shark eating - tigers, hammerheads, large bulls) sharks later in the year. I think the small sharks attract them.
Sharks are present from the shallows to the end... i've hooked several at the 5th/6th light pole.. the worst area imo is west of the octiQuote:
Originally Posted by Indiana87
***Disclaimer that this isn't serious and is quite sad*** but can they just install one of these at the pier?
https://nypost.com/2018/04/19/ghost-...ine-graveyard/
Sharks aren't bad in the parking lot
Fredric is right. Whenever Spanish and/or Kings show up, so do the Sharks. This is before anyone starts cleaning their catch. I hear a lot of people complaining about the cleaning stations being the draw and although Sharks are opportunistic predators and will grab the fish parts, the Spanih and Kings being hooked are throstle serious problem. I've seen dozens of (mostly blacktop), sharks with the heaviest concentration on the Octi and draw where their favorite meals are being hooked up and become prey.
The sharks are there with the schools of mackerel---do you expect them to turn down dessert from the cleaning tables?
I’m sure this is a dumb question but how close to the pier can you shore fish and if it’s reasonably close could some of the sharks be caught and removed?
Landing sharks is prohibited in the Park, Orange Beach and Gulf Shores.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indiana87
Gotcha. Just to clarify things, does that mean no landing sharks on public beaches or all beaches including private areas?Quote:
Originally Posted by frednic
All beaches in Alabama are public from the water to mean high tide. IOW you can walk, or fish, down by the shore everywhere you just can't walk up on the dry part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indiana87
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by frednic
Please, if you do not know the laws, don't pretend that you do.
No it is not illegal to fish for or land sharks in Orange Beach and Gulf Shores.
It is only illegal to fish for sharks in a manner,
OrQuote:
"...that presents an unsafe condition to any beach goers, sun bathers,swimmers, or any other person."
It is only illegal within the Gulf State Park boundaries and pier, and then only by a line originally cast from there.Quote:
"...to fish for or target sharks of any species by those methods commonly known as “chumming” or “bloodbaiting”.(a) For purposes of this regulation, “chumming” shall be defined as the throwing of bait or fish parts into the water to attract fish(b) For purposes of this regulation, “bloodbaiting” shall be defined as the use of blood, chemical or synthetic attractants, fish parts, chicken parts or other animal parts to attract fish or sharks.
So technically you could fish from a kayak, hook up a shark and then land it on any GSP beach.Quote:
(f) It shall be unlawful to fish for sharks or use any type of shark fishing gear on any Gulf State Park Public Beach or on the Gulf State Park Saltwater Fishing Pier. It shall be unlawful to land or to attempt to land any shark on any line originally cast from said State Park Pier or Beach.
The actual Alabama law pertaining to shark fishing and methods, please read it and understand it.
This is the Orange Beach and Gulf Shores law that so few actually fully know and understand.
Quote:
“It shall be unlawful within three hundred feet of the shoreline, or on a public pier, or on a private pier where an unsafe condition is created, on or in waters of Alabama under the jurisdiction of the Marine Resources Division as provided by Rule 220-2-.42, to fish for or target sharks or any species by those methods commonly known as ‘chumming’ or ‘bloodbaiting.’
“For purposes of this regulation, ‘chumming’ shall be defined as the throwing of bait or fish parts into the water to attract fish.
“For purposes of this regulation, ‘bloodbaiting’ shall be defined as the use of blood, chemical or synthetic attractants, fish parts, chicken parts or other animal parts to attract fish or sharks.
“It shall be unlawful, on or adjacent to the waters of Alabama under the jurisdiction of the Marine Resources Division as provided by Rule 220-2-.42, for any person to surf fish for sharks, bow fish for sharks, or fish for or target sharks by any other means from any pier or beach in such a manner that presents an unsafe condition to any beach goers, sun bathers, swimmers, or any other person.”
No where in there does it say it is illegal to land a shark.
It is worded so that any fishing near any beach goer can be construed as posing a hazard to the tourists.
It is so loosely written that ANY Fishing within 300' of the beach can be prohibited, especially fishing with any type of bait.
I would be happy if another big Tiger came around for the summer like last year. That scared the Hell out of me though it did keep all the other sharks run off if she decided to attack somebody on the beach they wouldn't stand a chance.
Chili is on top of this. I did some digging in the Alabama administrative codes. The code Chili is talking about is 220-3-.77 titled Shark Fishing. My interpretation of that law, which that law is written to be enforced by the descretion of law enforcement officers viewing the totality of circumstances(all facts must be considered), is that shark fishing is completely legal as long as you put no one else in danger.
Now if you’re shark fishing around people and when you get checked by the law and you say you were just fishing for some other species but all your gear and tackle say you’re shark fishing then you’re probably screwed. Layman’s terms: don’t shark fish around other people or dump bloody fish parts in the water that will attract sharks and put people in danger. I would personally want at least a couple hundred yards between me and any other person if I was shark fishing just to be safe but the “safe” distance would be left to the officers discretion. Bloody parts from the pier cleaning station would not fall under chumming because there is no intent for that purpose. Added that part for the few who will try to bring up that argument. Also I didn’t try to look up the codes that govern the state park property specifically.
**Disclaimer** Im obviously not an Alabama law enforcement officer but I do get to play one here in Indiana so don’t go on what I say because I have no idea how the local prosecutors office will view things. When in doubt call your local law enforcement agency and they can help make things clear as mud for you. Sorry for the novel but when it comes to the law I get on a roll. I’d like to write more and more is needed, but I know most won’t even read all what I’ve wrote already.