I read on face book about pelicans found dead on the beach near the pier. Said suspected fishermen were killing them. Surely this is not happening!!
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I read on face book about pelicans found dead on the beach near the pier. Said suspected fishermen were killing them. Surely this is not happening!!
I sure hope not, but from all I've seen, the fishermen may cuss the birds but are very careful about releasing those that are hooked or tangled. Of course, it only takes one a$$h#le to kill a pelican----
I've made that point before - cuss em but go out of our way to free them. Most that is. There are a select few that just cut 'em off and I've seen several pelicans with gotchas hooked between body and neck. A death sentence for a bird that cant feed or fly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haywire
There is a special place in hell for people who abuse animals. And killing and pelican is abuse in my book..hooking one on accident is one thing, killing them for no reason is another...whoever did will get theirs.....
Don't know about a special place in hell, but it certainly ain't a good thing to do.
Also, don't place a lot of faith in Face Book - more than one FB story has ended up on here and proved to be BS.
Which pier? I didn't see it but I know I always bring them in and remove any hooks...I wish everyone would. It's a shame that one or a few can cast a bad light on all fishermen. GT
This fb story is true,. I talked to the Park Ranger today after we caught a young pelican and got a Gotcha out of his foot. The bird could not stand up to take off. The line had been cut and was wrapped around the leg a bazillion times, took forever to get it freed.Quote:
Originally Posted by divedeep
Sure hope Sam was not one of them....
Sam was doing fine when I talked to him Saturday.
Didn't see him today. Sam doesn't hangout at the pier as much as he did before his broken wing.
They were pretty much accusing fishermen of killing them on purpose because they are pests. I replied to the post and let them know that I saw several of them hooked last week, all by accident and all were netted, gently handled, unhooked and released.
giving us a bad name.......:mad:
Kill em all!
They taste like chicken!!!
Naw, j/k chicken tastes MUCH better ;-) LOL
Last week I quit counting the numbers of pelicans i saw fly by trailing line or leaders :-(
If there are any dead ones I wunder how many of them gagged on the fish bones they have been fed at the cleaning station.
IMHO it should be VERBOLTEN to purposely feed 'wild' seabirds on the pier!
I saw one with a walmart rig with 2 big corks on it a couple weeks ago, I didn't see who did it, sure do wish I would have, that bird was a gonner, not a whole lot I could do bout it though
When these birds are hooked on light line it is virtually impossible to get them in to remove the hook or rig. A breakoff is inevitible.
If we took away the 'soup line' at the cleaning table, they would tend to stay away from the pier and resume their natural fear of humans.
People who feed pelicans are eventually condemning them to a slow death! :mad:
I saw one on the rail yesterday that had something big caught in his throat, but I couldn't get close without him flying away. I don't know what I would have done if I could've caught him anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pier#r
As I was leaving the pier this afternoon, I saw the News 5 truck in the lot, and there was Debbie Williams filming for the evening news, Being a nosey kinda guy, I inquired as to what was news worthy around the pier and she said they were doing a piece on the recent dead pelicans.
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These dudes were stationed at the cleaning table this afternoon watching some guy cleaning a Skippy.
I didn't ask.
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There was a dead pelican in the Lake or Pond whatever you wanna call it at Buena Vista RV Park today due to Alligator Attack
Well, the jig is up. Now come the conservationists blaming all the ignorant a$$, evil fishermen for encroaching on the pelican's natural habitat. :rolleyes:
I caught one at lake shelby with my hands it had a gotcha on it the hook was connected threw the wing to the body so i took it out then it was fine after that
Personally I blame the BP Oil Spill for any and all dead pelicans forever.
ive seen were they were hooked on lighter gear and the line would break before they could get them in
I've had a pelican bite my line in half while I was reeling him in.
The two times I was down there ( june and late august) I never seen any pelicans on the pier. Is this always been a problem?
It is a shame that pellicans are dying ,but the park officials have got to do something about them , I remember when sam was the only one now they are everywhere making a mess on the deck , the rails,the acid from them will destroy the roofs they set on,and its like a septic pool watching so many of them in the water crapping with people trying to swim,not to mention all the problems they are causing the fisherman ,,remember not all fisherman have the means to bring one up on the pier to take hooks out of them ,and its like trying to walk thru a mind field getting your bait in the water away from them .The true enemy are the people that think its cute to feeed them so they can get pictures of them doing that ,and all they are doing is making them dependant on people feeding them so when you see a dead pellican dont blame the fisherman ,blame the ones that have fed them and created this problem.Awe I feel better now
Video Landing Page - WKRG News 5
Here's the story.
There is so much that I find disturbing in this news clip. The images of injured or reports of dead pelicans aren't disturbing to me. However, stupidity and the potential results from stupidity do disturb me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caboose2
they never mentioned that feeding them is illegal and even showed them being fed.
Don't forget, the media also acts like the current admenstruation is doing a good job of running our country!
A not so subtle shot at the fishermen.
Well, ya know folks are often judged by the company they keep. http://www.mbkfa.com/phpBB/images/sm...n_rolleyes.gif
I get just as pizzed as the next guy at those goofy lookin fifteen pound flyin crap factories, but will do my darndest to release one with as little harm as possible if there is an encounter.
And IF I see someone abusing them, 'Johnny Law' is gonna hear about it!
It unnerves me how bold the pelicans and blue herons (on shore) have become about approaching (and even stalking) humans because so many are being routinely fed by these stupid people! :mad:
The news video showed a park official feeding one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pier#r
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Originally Posted by Fishindave42
Thank you for proving my point!
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I have always carefully removed hooks and released everyone I ever caught and have helped many others do the same. I have never even witnessed anyone purposely harming one on the pier and that covers 60+ years of pier fishing. A towel over the head normally calms the bird enough to take care of his problem.
people should not feed them but by far this dose not mean that people should hurt and abuse them i hate them as much as the next guy but no need to cause a commotion if we had a pipe at the cleaning station i feal that would help mabey not alot but it could not hurt