Thread: Fiddler Crabs
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01-15-2017, 08:33 PM #1
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Fiddler Crabs
Can anyone enlighten me on acquiring fiddler crabs? I'm in Orange Beach a few times a year and I always stop at the local tackle stores for advice/bait and I've never had anyone suggest using fiddler crabs. According to a couple of people I talked to they claim they are the secret to catching sheepshead. Do tackle shops keep them stocked? Or is there anywhere that you can go pick them up yourself? I would rather gather my own bait being it's usually more lively, rather than picking some up that have been in the tackle shop for a couple days.
Thanks in advance for any advice!
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01-15-2017, 08:55 PM #2
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If you want to gather your own you want a mud flat at low tide. Best I have seen is at St Andrew's Bay off Fort Morgan Road. You'll need a long handle net with a 1/4 or 3/8 mesh.
People are shocked to see sharks in the water around here.
If you see natural water taste it. If it's salty it has sharks in it. If it's fresh it has alligators in it. If it's brackish it has both.
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01-16-2017, 07:41 AM #3
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I've generally had better luck with live shrimp, but there are days when nothing but a crab will do. Try J&M Tackle in Orange Beach---they generally will have them if anyone does. They aren't expensive and stay alive well, so it's no problem to take both shrimp and crabs with you.
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01-16-2017, 08:07 AM #4
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Anything special to keep them alive? I came down New Years weekend and tried to do some sheepshead fishing, I bought live shrimp from Top Gun Tackle in Orange Beach. However the shrimp I was given didn't seem very lively to begin with, probably 4 shrimp out of 2 dozen were kicking when I put them on the hook. I also kept the bucket aerated and shaded.
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01-16-2017, 09:40 AM #5
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I get my live shrimp from J & M, most of the time. I keep them aerated and they're good for the second day, lots of times (If I don't use 'em all on the first day of fishing). The water that they come in seems really clean, so it may be the tank and the filter that J & M uses. That's just a theory, of course. It's possible that if you cleaned your bait bucket with some sort of chemical or soapy solution and that it contaminated the water. It's also possible, I guess that the bucket held a bacteria that could have contaminated it. During the cool months, I don't use the insulated foam insert - just the plastic bucket. The bottom line is, though, that if you're keeping it aerated and in a shady spot where the temps aren't too high - your shrimp should last for at least a full day of fishing.
Regarding fiddler crabs, I break off the larger claw and put TWO fiddler crabs on a small, strong hook. It helps hide the hook to have two crabs, though I'm not sure what the two crabs being so close to each other simulates in nature. Sheepshead don't seem to question the opportunity, though and it's like Haywire said -- sometimes nothing but fiddler crabs will do. During peak sheepshead fishing, I take both live shrimp and fiddlers. I definitely buy my fiddlers rather than to try to catch them myself nowadays. They're extremely hardy!
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01-16-2017, 10:14 AM #6
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Yeah I had forgot my bait bucket at home so I opted to buy one of the 5 gallon buckets they had, which may have had some sort of toxins in it being it was brand new? The water wasn't exceptionally clean either. Sounds like next time I'll be stopping by J&M.
What kind of hook does everyone use for the shrimp and fiddlers? Last time I used a #10 treble hook and hooked the shrimp through the head, I only fished off the the GSSP and I had quite a few shrimp stolen. I wouldn't say it was very good conditions for fishing around the pilings, the waves were kicking and the wind was strong so it made it had to detect bites or keep the bait where I wanted it to be.
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01-16-2017, 10:24 AM #7
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People are shocked to see sharks in the water around here.
If you see natural water taste it. If it's salty it has sharks in it. If it's fresh it has alligators in it. If it's brackish it has both.
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I use a plain old #4 bait holder for sheepshead. Smaller live shrimp are better than bigger ones when it comes to sheepies. If the shrimp are large, you are almost better off using 1/2.
Fiddler crabs: just make sure not to put them in a bucket full of water! They will drown! Wet paper towels are the way to go.Carl
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01-16-2017, 11:55 AM #9
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I've always had better luck with J&M shrimp. Water is cold and clear and shrimp last longer. I do change the water after a day with fresh saltwater too. I use a plastic juice bottle for fiddlers with a wet piece of cardboard and a few blades of grass and have kept them this way for weeks.
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01-16-2017, 03:30 PM #10
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Ten-four on the juice bottle! You showed that to me last year and it sure does make getting out one or two at a time simple.
When it comes to hooks, I use the #10 treble and hook the shrimp like you said. On rough days, you probably need more weight to keep your bait where you want it---I've had some of my best action on rough days, but you shouldn't try to fish too deep.
I also endorse J&M shrimp. I had the same thing happen with Top Gun shrimp, and I was using my regular bucket.
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Good tip Tom! These two big fellas were screaming like girls when that happened to them last week... LOL
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