Grips?

Do you guys use grips for release and or hook removal, or would I look like a "fish out of water" if I used one? LOL

When it comes to one's personal safety, to heck with what anyone else thinks. I keep a pair of leather gloves handy for all sorts of fish release/hook removal purposes. I see too many "manly men" taking trips to the ER... :poke1:

a small bat helps take the attitude out of a fish across the back of the head....always have pliers on my side and a long extended pair in the bucket at the pier cart for the deep hook sets....most of the time just cut the line and get it later when cleaning after dead :poke1: and just grab another leader rigged and have at it some more....depend on what the fish is too!!!

Thanks for the advice DiveDeep and Ironman. I'd really rather not lose one of my digits trying to remove a hook!

I use a rubber tent peg mallet to anesthetize fish with attitudes. They don't seem to feel a thing when I take the hook out. Not a big fan of the "pier slam".

[quote author=Haywire link=topic=2810.msg25317#msg25317 date=1362450419]
Not a big fan of the "pier slam".
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+1
A) It's senseless because a quick blow to the top of the head accomplishes the same thing without blowing blood and slime all over the deck
B) It looks really bad to folks who might be on the fence between supporting fishing/hunting and supporting the PETA types.

[quote author=divedeep link=topic=2810.msg25304#msg25304 date=1362436859]
When it comes to one's personal safety, to heck with what anyone else thinks. I keep a pair of leather gloves handy for all sorts of fish release/hook removal purposes. I see too many "manly men" taking trips to the ER... :poke1:
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A king's teeth are plenty sharp enough to go through a pair of leather gloves. As easily as it went through my finger, it won't have a problem with leather. I would keep my hands as far away from a toothy fish's mouth as possible

Was referring to grabbing things like wire leaders, and using a glove with a long tool. Seen too many people get gashed over the years to put my hands close to a live king's or spaniard's mouth. This mother's son has not made it 40 some odd years afield without being injured by a critter by being foolish. :poke1:

You could classify my incident as a freak accident. That is one of the main reasons I have a gaff with a really long shank on it now. Teaching yourself how to work a manual reel with your middle finger was quite a task.

[quote author=the original pier pest link=topic=2810.msg25322#msg25322 date=1362458863]
You could classify my incident as a freak accident. That is one of the main reasons I have a gaff with a really long shank on it now. Teaching yourself how to work a manual reel with your middle finger was quite a task.
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Thanks to John g :bow: there are a few more long shanked gaff's on the pier to be used by others :fishing:

[quote author=divedeep link=topic=2810.msg25319#msg25319 date=1362457646]
[quote author=Haywire link=topic=2810.msg25317#msg25317 date=1362450419]
Not a big fan of the "pier slam".
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+1
A) It's senseless because a quick blow to the top of the head accomplishes the same thing without blowing blood and slime all over the deck
B) It looks really bad to folks who might be on the fence between supporting fishing/hunting and supporting the PETA types.
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Most excellent observations! :headbang:
Not to mention that 'tenderizing' a mackerel with a 'pier slam' is equivilent to using a car on the highway to tenderize meat. ::)
It takes a 'road kill' mentality to want to do that, destroys the texture of the meat. :angry:

If you “mackslap” ‘em hard enough, you can cut the head off and just pour the meat-mush out.
Also the onlookers prolly don’t care much for getting splattered with blood. Not cool! :nyd:

One of these days a king is going to slip out of somebody's while the Mac slam is being preformed and its going to be ugly.

never had a bat before but did get one last year....(after seeing the attitude that left the 75lb wahoo I caught offshore).....I would just lay the king under the cart for 5min or so and that took the life out of them quick enough.....the spanish went right to the knife and then baggie....those suckers in a cooler flopping around made for a bloody mess to clean, at the end of the day.....as sharp as the teeth are..... I am surprised there haven't been more injured

To me everyones opinion reguarding the, "mackslam ,"method of dispatchng a King shows a respect that is commendable .

I don't really consider it so much respect as practicality. Last summer during a pier chew down the deck was slippery as hell with the slime and blood from 40 or 50 slams and someone, I think maybe Peaches, (apologies if it wasn't you) busted his a$$ hard from a foot that slipped on a big patch of mack gore. Could have been a lot worse than a bruised butt, elbow and pride. Was right by the rail and his head just missed smacking it on the way down. :slap:
A fish rapped on the skull with a priest is just as dead as one heaved high up in the air and then slammed down.
Having said all that, it is JMHO. :fishing:

[quote author=divedeep link=topic=2810.msg25341#msg25341 date=1362524971]
I don't really consider it so much respect as practicality. Last summer during a pier chew down the deck was slippery as hell with the slime and blood from 40 or 50 slams and someone, I think maybe Peaches, (apologies if it wasn't you) busted his a$$ hard from a foot that slipped on a big patch of mack gore. Could have been a lot worse than a bruised butt, elbow and pride. Was right by the rail and his head just missed smacking it on the way down. :slap:
A fish rapped on the skull with a priest is just as dead as one heaved high up in the air and then slammed down.
Having said all that, it is JMHO. :fishing:
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Yup probably me.. I know I busted it hard 4 or more times last year..

Heck I'd say about 75% of the time a king is dead after being stuck with a gaff ... (If ya know how to stick em)

[font=comic sans ms][size=12pt]Here is the worst King teeth injury from a while back on the pier. Can’t be too careful!
Hope ya don’t mind me sharing the pic Jeb.

[img width=665 height=500]http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv221/jebslamchevy/IMG00041-20090906-1444-1.jpg[/img]

Nope not at all. I have the video I shot of them reattaching the ligament some where.

Da#n, Fin. That's wrong. :spank:

I hate it when the damn deck turns into a nastly slop of fish slime and blood. I know I've been victim a couple of times, shoot one of the pier employees was standing right there when I fell one time. (Not that they apologized or helped me up.) After that I know I was a lot more careful letting fish blood and what not get everywhere. Went and bought a better pair of shoes too that same day.

Use what ever is comfortable to you to be safe handling fish. Its always best not to handle them when they are flopping loose. I like to get a foot on them or hold them down. Still sucks though, have had them go nuts coming over the rail and ended up with one gotcha hook in my hand and the other still in a spanish mack. Yowsers that hurt.

Our high school didn't leave a lot of room for electives. Four years of shop was required for every guy, and the girls took Home economics. Our first year of shop, the teacher showed us the finger of a guy that was cut off on one of the saws. They kept it in a baby food jar, preserved in formaldehyde. We all got the point, and graduated with all our digits intact. Imagine that happening today in school?

Picture is worth a thousand words.

Those drivers ed movies......

I just found an aluminum T-ball bat in the back corner of the closet. Maybe I'll start carrying it instead of my mallet. I have a couple of scars from mackerel from my deck hand days---don't need any more.

I had gotten the hose and wash the deck off when the big chew was going on (2 years this spring 194 that day)....after I almost busted me butt....sorry for the ones I splashed a little water on there shoes.....that gave me a look [img width=19 height=25]http://i47.tinypic.com/21erozs.gif[/img]

[quote author=Haywire link=topic=2810.msg25359#msg25359 date=1362538290]
I just found an aluminum T-ball bat in the back corner of the closet. Maybe I'll start carrying it instead of my mallet. I have a couple of scars from mackerel from my deck hand days---don't need any more.
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that adjust there attitude immediately....I picked up one of the smaller for fishing ones....need all the space i can get when I come

[quote author=Haywire link=topic=2810.msg25359#msg25359 date=1362538290]
I just found an aluminum T-ball bat in the back corner of the closet. Maybe I'll start carrying it instead of my mallet. I have a couple of scars from mackerel from my deck hand days---don't need any more.
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[size=12pt]I like my little bat, has a nice ring to it when ya hit 'em just right![/size] :banana:

in regards to the slick deck, even when there is no fish slime/blood/guts, be very careful around the water spigots.

[quote author=stik link=topic=2810.msg25365#msg25365 date=1362572815]
in regards to the slick deck, even when there is no fish slime/blood/guts, be very careful around the water spigots.
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Perfectly dry deck can be dangerous if your anything like me...

[quote author=Peaches link=topic=2810.msg25366#msg25366 date=1362573104]
[quote author=stik link=topic=2810.msg25365#msg25365 date=1362572815]
in regards to the slick deck, even when there is no fish slime/blood/guts, be very careful around the water spigots.
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Perfectly dry deck can be dangerous if your anything like me...
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Isn't that the truth. There could be a perfectly flat parking lot and I would face plant.

[quote author=the original pier pest link=topic=2810.msg25369#msg25369 date=1362585528]
[quote author=Peaches link=topic=2810.msg25366#msg25366 date=1362573104]
[quote author=stik link=topic=2810.msg25365#msg25365 date=1362572815]
in regards to the slick deck, even when there is no fish slime/blood/guts, be very careful around the water spigots.
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Perfectly dry deck can be dangerous if your anything like me...
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Isn't that the truth. There could be a perfectly flat parking lot and I would face plant.
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+1. Same here. My feet sometimes have different plans from my body.

I've tripped over that d@mned red line a couple of times.