What kind of reels do the main guys us on the pier? And where can you get them?
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What kind of reels do the main guys us on the pier? And where can you get them?
LOL
Take yer pick.
On a given day on the pier you will likely see anything and everything from 'cheapo' Walmart combos, to 'Yard Sale' or E-bay specials, to grampa's hand-me-downs, to off the shelf, or custom tackle or 'high dollar' stuff.
Different strokes... ;-)
Like Peir#r noted, it all depends.
The die-hard regulars who king fish a lot mostly have Penn's on their king rods.
I have an discontinued Shakespeare on my king rod, a Penn 712Z on my Spanish rod, and a mix of Shimano, Bass Pro and Diawa reels on my other medium action rods.
Do you want to spend big bucks? Then go with high-end Penn or Shimano.
Relatively inexpensive? Mid-range Penn & Shimano.
Inexpensive: Bass Pro has some of their brand that are bargains.
J&M has some good deals on King rod/reel combos that should last forever.
For the everyday king and cobia guys its penn 706z or a mitchell 302. But u will see the select few that dropped the cash on a zeebaas or a van staal. Most all will be on a custom spinning rod.
Okay men i appreciate the help.
If you go with bass pro brand, take extremely good care of it because if it ever needs a part it's almost impossible to find them. I have bought them before (before I learned better) and they are decent but you get what you pay for. I'd go with a good brand name reel, even if it is one of the cheaper economy models if price is a factor. Just my 2 cents worth! (I'm partial to Shimano, but I don't fish for kings.)
About 4yrs ago I bought a Shimano combo from J&M, can't quite remember but it was around $50-75. I've used and abused that thing and it still works like the day I bought it. I've caught hundreds of fish with it, from inshore to deep water. I took it out on a tuna trip for a bait rod and actually landed 1-2 BFT in it. I'm sure it won't see the next generation but its been a reliable reel.
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Penn 706 and 710 with a Mitchel manual conversion are my favorites
If you would give us a little better idea what your fishing for and what you budget is we can help you out.
It depends on your budget. I am just a vacationing pier fisherman. I have a penn battle 8000 and 6000 and 2 penn fierce 6000. My rods are big game rods from walmart (I use them on Mississippi blue cats and love them for the price. I have never had a problem with them on the pier. As far as the reels I actually like the penn fierce. If I was a full timer down there I might go with higher end rods and reels.
PNG---I have one of those same reels and haven't found a thing to complain about.
Im glad you said that Mr.George, I need to buy a few more setups and wasn't sure what I'd get. I'm thinking I'll go the same route.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haywire
I like my van staals alot, and my zee, and love my stella... But all I spend money on is fishing tackle... Mid ranged reels I'd suggest shimano stradic/Saragossa, penn battle/conquer.. I love my 706s but I tend to bend shafts In them wayyyy too often...(but if I fish braid for the most part and enjoy locking fish down) ..
Just like John said, price range and what species targeted need to be answered before any specifics can be givin
Im just a vacation fisherman and when i go out i usually try to fish for kings or spanish. But wouldnt mind something i could on strip back home on Smith Lake. Just wnted to get a few ideas of solid reels. Thanks Everyone
Penn battle 5 or 6000 or bigger stradic
A 6000 Penn Battle is a nice reel. I heard it said by a wise old fisherman "Anything with 20lbs of drag is no puny reel."Quote:
Originally Posted by sloughhunter
I'm looking forward to maxing mine out this summer and banking a few 5 ft blacktips.:cool:
Just because a reel's drag is capable of producing big number doesn't mean the rest of the reel is up to the task (ever heard the expression, "don't let your jaybird mouth overload your hummingbird rearend"?) I would almost be willing to pay money to watch someone fight a fish capable of pulling that much drag on a spinning reel from a pier or the bank. FWIW a 5 ft shark wouldn't stand a chance against half that much drag with the proper leader, terminal tackle and an angler that knows how to fight a fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by DANtheJDMan
Brin a drag scale and il being my stellaQuote:
Originally Posted by DRH
Hey Stelllaaahhhh! - YouTubeQuote:
Originally Posted by Peaches
I would say that a Stella, along with a Penn Torque, some of the higher end Daiwas, Van Staal, ZeeBaas and a few others that are capable of continuous duty at their rated drag capacity. I just don't think there are many that could put max pressure on a balanced spinning outfit. Remember that your Stella is rated a good bit higher than any Battle, so you're claiming to do even more and it would take an even bigger or stronger fish to accomplish what I'm talking about.
I believe that you just answered the mans initial question. He said he had a 6000 and an 8000 Battle. Those are plenty of reel for most anything that he will hook off the pier or the beach in Gulf Shores Alabama.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRH
And I liked the kind of Snotty Condescending way you eluded that I don't know how to set a drag or tie a leader. Your absolutly right. But I was just telling the man that a 6000 Battle is a nice reel. See you on the beach old timer. The other old timer who said that about a Battle was from OBX I think he runs a Tackle shop there and his name is old man RIVER. And if you don't know where that is then.:rolleyes:
Whether you like it or not, it wasn't my intention to be snotty or condescending. I don't see how you could possibly construe such from what I wrote. I definitely made no mention of your abilities either positive or negative.Quote:
Originally Posted by DANtheJDMan
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Originally Posted by bsellers1
If you want a good, all purpose reel for pier fishing, you ned to go to a tackle shop or outdoor outfitter such as Bass Pro, Cabellas, Gander Mountain, or similar store and look at their salt water section. I have been fishing for more than 60 years and I have used a great variety of tackle. Reels from Pfluger, Penn, Daiwa, Garcia, Shimano and others, I've used cheap reels, expensive reels, outrageously expensive reels, and just about everything in between. For the money - in my opinion - you can't beat Penn reels; either spinning or baitcasting. they are not the most expensive, nor are they the cheapest. They will not impress the people around you with their trendiness or bling, they will not announce that you have money to burn, but they will catch fish without failing to operate properly time after time for decades. If you take reasonable care of it, A Penn reel will likely last you for your entire life. Mine have. Don't be misled by those who think that only the latest hot item will do the job. It ain't so. If you know how to fish and how to use your equipment you will succeed. If you do not, then no matter what you buy you will have to develop those skills first.
Captain Amberjack>
Excellent first post Captain Amberjack. Welcome to the forum.
The way I read the old "hummingbird adage" was directed at the reel's drag rating, not you. Jus' sayin'Quote:
Originally Posted by DANtheJDMan
That is not the part I was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinChaser
FWIW a 5 ft shark wouldn't stand a chance against half that much drag with the proper leader, terminal tackle and an angler that knows how to fight a fish.
What does FWIW mean anyway.
Like the new guy said and I said before. A Penn Battle is a nice reel with plenty of guts for the pier. I live far from the beach just the thought of line stripping off a reel and the pole bent straight out makes me travel more than a thousand miles.
What I mean is "Drag was made to use." I'd love to hook up and get spooled but with 20lbs of drag and 300 yards of braid and mono on it the fish is going to have to work at it.
For What It's WorthQuote:
Originally Posted by DANtheJDMan
One of the few internet short hands I can tolerate.
Dan, when I said a 5 foot shark wouldn't stand a chance, I no way directed it toward any individual or said anything like "I can but you can't". I was saying the gray suited toothy vermin didn't stand a chance, with conditions. Those being leader, terminal tackle and fish fighting skills. Don't take offense if you are lacking in any of the conditions. If you are, tell us. Most of us here really want to help. We'll make up leaders for you as you watch so you will know. We'll advise you on your setup and choices of terminal tackle. Above all, if you do happen to hook into a good fish (that would be what you consider good, not our opinion of what is good) and we recognize any deficiency in your ability we will stop fishing to coach you through it and help you to the best of our ability.
I know that I make it seem that I have a mouse in my pocket with my extensive use of the word "we" throughout this post. I don't have a mouse, but what I have is a bunch of rats, pier rats that is. I can vouch for them and know them well enough to know that they would do everything I said that they, we and I would do for you or anyone else that doesn't rub us the wrong way.
DRH---And all this time I thought you were saying "we" because you had worms. With me, it's THE VOICES IN MY HEAD. They argue with each other and stir up a bunch of crap, and sometimes it leaks out of my mouth.
I don't know much, but I'm happy to share what I do.
Bring your Stella and ill bring my dogfight lol. I do that with my friend when we're bored to see who's reel got the toughest drag. Right now it's dogfight>stella10k>zeebaas27>van staal250. And my synit rod wins every time.
I live far from the beach just the thought of line stripping off a reel and the pole bent straight out makes me travel more than a thousand miles.
What I mean is "Drag was made to use." I'd love to hook up and get spooled but with 20lbs of drag and 300 yards of braid and mono on it the fish is going to have to work at it.[/QUOTE]
Having (I think) a King strip my top shot off and keeep going was a thrill I won't soon forget.:nyd
That reminds me of the time I hooked into a 5ft shark on my 6# line. It was comical because he didn't really want to fight, got him to the pier once then he shook his head and snap! It was fun though, I was jigging for pompano :-) It really all depends on the type of shark too, a 5-6ft bull shark could probably strip the gear in any battle (they are made out of pot-metal), while a 5ft sharpnose wouldn't stand a chance!Quote:
Originally Posted by DRH
I'm just messing with you old timer. I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean it in the way that you are wise. I'm a newbe to this forum, I usually hang out with the big boys from OBX on P&S.com.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRH
It is a night and day difference. You guys are talking about using Penn 706s and those guys talk about "I had one of those back in the day." Two guys posted a picture that said "Antiques using Antiques." It was a Penn 706 Greenie on an 11 ft Lamiglass yellow rod with cord wrapped butt. They had a nice 40+ inch drum in the picture too. You guys are all spinners and those guys are almost all conventionals: Akios, Abus, Penn Squals, Diawa Slosh most of them magged.
I'm really not a pier guy at all, more of a beach guy and sense I live 1,200 miles form the nearest salt water I can sort of choose where I go fish. My wife's mother lives in TX so we go to PINS when we go to see her. My son is stationed in Hampton VA so we will go to OBX out there. My daughter is still in TN so we go down th Gulf shores or Pennsecola when we see her.
To you guys that fish all the time, a 5 ft blacktip is a pest that bites off your drum rigs and all in all is just a pain in the butt. To me its like holy sh_t. Most of the fishing done up here is for bait. There are walleyes and pike and big cats but it is not like having a 5 ft+ shark or a king or a jack strip line. You guys know what I'm talking about or you would be bass fishing in some pond up by Huntsville.
DRH I know your a good guy and I hope to meet you someday. Plans right now are to see the kids in Hampton the last week of June. I would like to get to meet old man River in Buxton. The maker of the River Rig @ Red Drum Bait & Tackle. And see the point. I've been to Okrakoce fishing 30 years ago but never made it up to Hatteras.
Tight lines You'all.