Shark Fishing Expanding

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Originally Posted by jollymon

You sound like your going to spend my entire week on the Pier so the few hours you can't get to the Octi is really going to kill your vacation
As for the few extra people that will come to see it don't for a minute think that they'll spend any serious time waiting for a Shark hookup
They'll hang out and then go ,
This being done to better the fishing experience for all that come to fish so think BIG PICTURE
I'm pretty sure if you lost 30 to 40 dollars in x-raps and associated tackle and lose fish to Sharks you'd cry about how unfair it is and something has to be done but not on MY VACATION TIME .

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Like I said , if it not happening on your vacation it's easy to say , and I don't cry over lost xrap , just bought 20 yesterday:congratulatory:

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Originally Posted by jollymon

You sound like your going to spend my entire week on the Pier so the few hours you can't get to the Octi is really going to kill your vacation
As for the few extra people that will come to see it don't for a minute think that they'll spend any serious time waiting for a Shark hookup
They'll hang out and then go ,
This being done to better the fishing experience for all that come to fish so think BIG PICTURE
I'm pretty sure if you lost 30 to 40 dollars in x-raps and associated tackle and lose fish to Sharks you'd cry about how unfair it is and something has to be done but not on MY VACATION TIME .

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To my knowledge I don't think I have ever complained on this site about loosing xraps or getting sharked . I just don't like my fishing being limited some , it get daylight around 530 and you not going to be able to get on the end for two hours . All the effort so far has resulted in one shark . It needs to be open for any one at any time to do it , that's the way Florida does it and. People are hooking shark like that throughout the day all the time on purpose anyway , they just say it was accidentally done , let them bring them up , you would get rid of more sharks and not close off any of the pier

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Originally Posted by Johntr21

Easy to say when it's not your time and money and you can go anytime u want

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HA! Never have I been one who "can go anytime u want".

We get it. We understand you're frustrated, you've made that quite clear, :bang(again & again & again ;-)
but let's stay on topic and move on...
And anytime I do get to go there is an hour+ drive each way (and often a loss of wages that could have been earned).
So it's NOT "easy to say"...
But I and many others here, endure even more without whining about it...

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Originally Posted by Pier#r

HA! Never have I been one who "can go anytime u want".

We get it. We understand you're frustrated, you've made that quite clear, :bang(again & again & again ;-)
but let's stay on topic and move on...
And anytime I do get to go there is an hour+ drive each way (and often a loss of wages that could have been earned).
So it's NOT "easy to say"...
But I and many others here, endure even more without whining about it...

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Bout got it all out of my system

LOL!
Glad we could help ;-)

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Originally Posted by Johntr21

Bout got it all out of my system

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Didn't mean to spin this up , sorry about that ,

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Originally Posted by Johntr21

I will complain if I choose to:congratulatory:

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Wow...!!!!!!!
If you were part of what has been going on the last few years with the sharks you should understand the process that is happening and should understand the small inconvenience to you on your trip. (an hour and a half for two days!!)
People talk of not visiting the pier due to the number of sharks that take away from catching real fish.
Fyi - Fish caught on the octi can be caught a few more yards down the pier as well.
Thank you to the state for giving the shark fishing a try and even modifying what you did the first two weeks.
The state has made great strides in answering to the many people who are part of this forum in making changes, and possibly more changes to come as long as things are safe and controllable.
The average tourist would not even have a way to get a large shark decked without the proper equipment even if they tried!
To think, the forum had enough power to change pier ruled through a government operation!!!

I hope Johntr21 comes to enjoy the pier on his vacation.
Obviously you have picked GS over the what the other piers have to offer and what your family can enjoy while you fish.
Maybe you can try another pier for one of the days you feel inconvenienced.

It's time for us to stop entertaining the people who want to complain, wine, and be negative on the process that is happening on the best pier in the gulf.

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Originally Posted by jollymon

Didn't mean to spin this up , sorry about that ,

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No prob buddy

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Originally Posted by 1000 Miles Away

Wow...!!!!!!!
If you were part of what has been going on the last few years with the sharks you should understand the process that is happening and should understand the small inconvenience to you on your trip. (an hour and a half for two days!!)
People talk of not visiting the pier due to the number of sharks that take away from catching real fish.
Fyi - Fish caught on the octi can be caught a few more yards down the pier as well.
Thank you to the state for giving the shark fishing a try and even modifying what you did the first two weeks.
The state has made great strides in answering to the many people who are part of this forum in making changes, and possibly more changes to come as long as things are safe and controllable.
The average tourist would not even have a way to get a large shark decked without the proper equipment even if they tried!
To think, the forum had enough power to change pier ruled through a government operation!!!

I hope Johntr21 comes to enjoy the pier on his vacation.
Obviously you have picked GS over the what the other piers have to offer and what your family can enjoy while you fish.
Maybe you can try another pier for one of the days you feel inconvenienced.

It's time for us to stop entertaining the people who want to complain, wine, and be negative on the process that is happening on the best pier in the gulf.

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Like I said easy for u to say when it's not your time and money buddy , so don't bager me any more please, I haven't been rude to anyone on here , and by the way it's two days of my 4 day vacation for two and half hours each of those days

If it's truly an issue Johntr21 why not call the pier / state park etc and voice your displeasure and inform them of your feelings?

Another baby step in the right direction.

Of course, if fishing for all species were allowed as per state regulations....since it is a state facility....and it is run by the same state who set those regulations.....

Let's say that the speed limit on the state expressway system is 70 mph. There's a stretch of the expressway that requires maintenance, though, that requires workers to be in close proximity to motorists. During this period of time, it's reasonable for motorists to be required to slow down, as a matter of safety. Reasonable motorists may grumble under their breath, but generally understand that the safety of the workers is more important than the traffic logjam that results. If you know in advance about the maintenance, you just make other plans. You take a different route. You travel when there's less traffic. Those are REASONABLE responses to a possible inconvenience.

What would be unreasonable is to demand that the state standard 70 mph limit be reestablished, presumably because an individual asserts that his schedule is more important than safety of the workers or other motorists. First of all, it's a flawed premise because safety is ALWAYS the most important thing, any assurances to the contrary from the complainant notwithstanding. Additionally, it's not reasonable to think that an important decision-maker is going to put his career and his reputation on the line to accommodate the relatively minor inconvenience of one person. Imagine how the decision-maker would feel if something terrible happened and he was to blame for the wrong-headed decision!

In Alabama, STATE plans are made in Montgomery. They're not made locally and they're not made on a discussion board. Decisions come slowly. Nothing is going to radically change. About all anybody can express here is "I wish it were different". If nobody else says, "me too", then there's no consensus for change anyway. A reasonable person, absent that consensus, will make accommodations within the PRESENT paradigm.

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Originally Posted by eym_sirius

Let's say that the speed limit on the state expressway system is 70 mph. There's a stretch of the expressway that requires maintenance, though, that requires workers to be in close proximity to motorists. During this period of time, it's reasonable for motorists to be required to slow down, as a matter of safety. Reasonable motorists may grumble under their breath, but generally understand that the safety of the workers is more important than the traffic logjam that results. If you know in advance about the maintenance, you just make other plans. You take a different route. You travel when there's less traffic. Those are REASONABLE responses to a possible inconvenience.

What would be unreasonable is to demand that the state standard 70 mph limit be reestablished, presumably because an individual asserts that his schedule is more important than safety of the workers or other motorists. First of all, it's a flawed premise because safety is ALWAYS the most important thing, any assurances to the contrary from the complainant notwithstanding. Additionally, it's not reasonable to think that an important decision-maker is going to put his career and his reputation on the line to accommodate the relatively minor inconvenience of one person. Imagine how the decision-maker would feel if something terrible happened and he was to blame for the wrong-headed decision!

In Alabama, STATE plans are made in Montgomery. They're not made locally and they're not made on a discussion board. Decisions come slowly. Nothing is going to radically change. About all anybody can express here is "I wish it were different". If nobody else says, "me too", then there's no consensus for change anyway. A reasonable person, absent that consensus, will make accommodations within the PRESENT paradigm.

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Now u know most fisherman didn't understand nothing u just said:D

i have just as much fun between the bathrooms and octi as I do the octi itself! I commend the efforts to thwart the shark population! a few hours a week shouldnt be such a dismal uprising of content. put on a bubble or gotcha and getcha some spaniards by the crappers!

Johntr21,

My situation is similar to yours, in that the time we spend at the pier is limited to our advanced scheduled vacations. Yes, we spend ALOT of time at the pier, because our time is limited to vacation trips. Any restrictions on that time isn’t ideal... but my hope is that the long term goal (resident shark population balance/ fear restored) will enable future trips to the pier more enjoyable. My 13 year old son all but refuses to King fish any more. In the past 3 summers, we have hooked up on no less than 30 kings... NONE of which have been landed (only heads only or completely lost gear). Hopefully, progress will turn the tides on that running streak. It does seem possible that legal harvest of sharks will be allowed at at some point (like the Florida piers), but I’m sure the need to regulate it in the beginning is to prevent outright chaos from ensuing. This problem took a few years to develop, likely at least a few months to get back to a ideal balance.

All that being said... your vacation is planned, and the scheduled shark fishing times will possibly affect you. My hope for you that the sightseer crowds will diminish AND that you are able to experience plenty of action in the area of the pier that will be accessible during those two early mornings. I have been down in July in the past couple years and have seen plenty of Spanish (better eating than Kings anyway) runs that were their hottest halfway between the Tee and the Octi. Also, the Red runs that have been going on in the past couple of weeks have extended north beyond the bathrooms as well.

Tight lines... and much relaxation during your vacation.

Well, it looks like I'll have to retire the skeleton meme...

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Congratulations, you have been selected to be among the 15 anglers participating in the July 8th, 2018, Managed Shark Fishing Event at Gulf State Park Pier’s octagon, to be held between 7:00PM and 7:00AM.

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WOW!
Got this email today.

The recent efforts to mitigate the obvious problem with sharks hanging around the pier like buzzards on a road kill is at least a good faith effort on the part of those who control the pier. For my part, I've visited piers all over America and for that matter, much of the planet and for the life of me I can't recall anything like this! Catching sharks is as normal as breathing anywhere else I've been. Damn near 50 years ago, as a young military guy, the military stores offered high end stereo equipment cheap to everyone. The problem was that when you got the box filled with the stereo stuff the instructions were written in Chinese. This effort reminds me a lot of watching fellow GI's try to make sense of it. No disrespect but im sure glad i didn't go to war with the decision makers in this matter.

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Originally Posted by Pier#r

Well, it looks like I'll have to retire the skeleton meme...



WOW!
Got this email today.

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Do you have a release pole?

:barbershop_quartet_

LOL, no.
Anything close I would probably just break or cut off.

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Originally Posted by dasarge1953

The recent efforts to mitigate the obvious problem with sharks hanging around the pier like buzzards on a road kill is at least a good faith effort on the part of those who control the pier. For my part, I've visited piers all over America and for that matter, much of the planet and for the life of me I can't recall anything like this! Catching sharks is as normal as breathing anywhere else I've been. Damn near 50 years ago, as a young military guy, the military stores offered high end stereo equipment cheap to everyone. The problem was that when you got the box filled with the stereo stuff the instructions were written in Chinese. This effort reminds me a lot of watching fellow GI's try to make sense of it. No disrespect but im sure glad i didn't go to war with the decision makers in this matter.

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This has been the most intelligent thing I have heard said so far about the shark fishing ! Treat it just like any other fish ! You would get rid of lot more and not limit people fishing when they are on vacation and fishing is the only reason they came !!!!:drunk

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Originally Posted by Pier#r

Well, it looks like I'll have to retire the skeleton meme...


WOW!
Got this email today.

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Now you have the unenviable task of choosing an assistant.

Much like July 4 firework closures, local events like "Noise Fest", or bait tank construction, there's always something to interfere with normal fishing routines. This one just has to stand in line to get into gripe rotation.