I was wondering what size stranded wire are ya'll using with your king lures. I have been using single strand but want to start using stranded for my lures.
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I was wondering what size stranded wire are ya'll using with your king lures. I have been using single strand but want to start using stranded for my lures.
One of the guys on the pier told me to use #7, but I've yet to try it.
I've been using 18# Sevenstrand for spanish and 27# Sevenstrand for kings.
And a #10 swivel (the smallest) is all you will need.
It tests out WAY above the breaking strength of the line and leader.
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Ok. Thanks David. I have been using those #10 Spros for a while. I have great eyesight, but theses things are almost hard for me to see. Hard to believe they are 35# test.
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Ok. Thanks David. I have been using those #10 Spros for a while. I have great eyesight, but theses things are almost hard for me to see. Hard to believe they are 35# test.
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Chef, David was talking about wire... not swivels...
and when i fish spoons and lures for kings i like to use doubled 38 lb singlestrand wire... I fish braid and have broken off lighter wire multiple times thanks to my tight drag and no stretch from the braid
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and when i fish spoons and lures for kings i like to use doubled 38 lb singlestrand wire... [size=12pt]I fish braid and have broken off lighter wire multiple times thanks to my tight drag and no stretch from the braid[/size][/quote]
Thats cause your a GOOGAN TOURIST!!!!!!!!!! :violent :spank: [size=10pt]LET EM RUN!![/size]
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Ok. Thanks David. I have been using those #10 Spros for a while. I have great eyesight, but theses things are almost hard for me to see. Hard to believe they are 35# test.
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Chef, David was talking about wire... not swivels...
and when i fish spoons and lures for kings i like to use doubled 38 lb singlestrand wire... I fish braid and have broken off lighter wire multiple times thanks to my tight drag and no stretch from the braid
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David did talk about swivels in his post as well. Not doubting your method but wouldn't that leader set up be easier for the fish to see? Why not use say 35# stranded. Just curious.
Chef, when fishing lures and spoons whether the leader is visible because of its diameter or not is of little consequence. When fishing artificial you can get away with a much shorter leader than with natural bait. Also the speed at which you work the bait makes the mackerel commit to its strike of the bait from a distance and at speed of its own. In other words there is less of a chance of the fish to spot the leader and change the decision it has made to eat the lure. Think about the treble hooks that are exposed on artificial lures, if you look at them the same as you're looking at the leader, it would make you wonder if they would hit them at all.
I showed Tyler and a few others how to make the leader he's referring to. I posted the technique with pictures on the defunct ECPFF. I think I can locate the pictures and will make a post or create a new thread on it in the near future.
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Chef, when fishing lures and spoons whether the leader is visible because of its diameter or not is of little consequence. When fishing artificial you can get away with a much shorter leader than with natural bait. Also the speed at which you work the bait makes the mackerel commit to its strike of the bait from a distance and at speed of its own. In other words there is less of a chance of the fish to spot the leader and change the decision it has made to eat the lure. Think about the treble hooks that are exposed on artificial lures, if you look at them the same as you're looking at the leader, it would make you wonder if they would hit them at all.
I showed Tyler and a few others how to make the leader he's referring to. I posted the technique with pictures on the defunct ECPFF. I think I can locate the pictures and will make a post or create a new thread on it in the near future.
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yayyyy for viscous reaction strikes!!
Here is how to make the doubled single strand leader.
Cut a length of single strand wire twice the desired finished length plus an additional 3-4 inches for trim. Fold the leader material in half and a make 4 or 5 turn haywire twist, just as you would making a single strand leader.
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Instead of making barrel rolls, as you would with a single strand leader, make a series of loose haywire twists the length of the doubled leader.
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Grab the loose ends of the leader with your pliers to keep the loose haywire twists from unraveling. Finish the double leader by making another tight haywire twist.
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At this point clip the leader at the ends of the haywire twist and you'll have a length of twisted double single strand leader material. Use it them same way you would use a length of single strand leader material. Simply attach it to your leader and swivel using haywire twists and barrel rolls. It isn't as easy to handle as single strand but far from difficult. Sorry I don't have any pictures for these final steps and hope this description is adequate.
Besides nearly doubling the strength of the single strand, a big advantage of taking the time to make leaders this way is that it will last the life of your lure. You can catch several fish and on one of these leaders and never have to worry about it fraying or pig tailing. The darn thing is extremely flexible and highly resistant to kinking. Here is a picture of the double leader tied in a figure 8 knot.
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Here is the same length of leader where the knot was tied once I undid the knot. I didn't make any attempt to straighten the leader before taking this picture. It can be made straight by simply running it between your thumb and index finger.
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I should have mentioned I mostly am using 10# mono when throwing those lures for spanish
and 12# mono the rest of the time.
Peaches gonna put the 'Gainer drag' down on them suckas with that braid and he knows to have some beefier wire and swivel.
Well you got to sometImes ... I don't like gettin sharked. And ask John g about split rings on Kroc spOons
Ok. Thanks for the info DHR, very helpful. I bought some 30lb Surfstrand today, but I think I will just do the double single strand setup.