Reels

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Originally Posted by DRH

Just because a reel's drag is capable of producing big number doesn't mean the rest of the reel is up to the task (ever heard the expression, "don't let your jaybird mouth overload your hummingbird rearend"?) I would almost be willing to pay money to watch someone fight a fish capable of pulling that much drag on a spinning reel from a pier or the bank. FWIW a 5 ft shark wouldn't stand a chance against half that much drag with the proper leader, terminal tackle and an angler that knows how to fight a fish.

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I believe that you just answered the mans initial question. He said he had a 6000 and an 8000 Battle. Those are plenty of reel for most anything that he will hook off the pier or the beach in Gulf Shores Alabama.

And I liked the kind of Snotty Condescending way you eluded that I don't know how to set a drag or tie a leader. Your absolutly right. But I was just telling the man that a 6000 Battle is a nice reel. See you on the beach old timer. The other old timer who said that about a Battle was from OBX I think he runs a Tackle shop there and his name is old man RIVER. And if you don't know where that is then.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by DANtheJDMan

And I liked the kind of Snotty Condescending way you eluded that I don't know how to set a drag or tie a leader.

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Whether you like it or not, it wasn't my intention to be snotty or condescending. I don't see how you could possibly construe such from what I wrote. I definitely made no mention of your abilities either positive or negative.

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Originally Posted by bsellers1

What kind of reels do the main guys us on the pier? And where can you get them?

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If you want a good, all purpose reel for pier fishing, you ned to go to a tackle shop or outdoor outfitter such as Bass Pro, Cabellas, Gander Mountain, or similar store and look at their salt water section. I have been fishing for more than 60 years and I have used a great variety of tackle. Reels from Pfluger, Penn, Daiwa, Garcia, Shimano and others, I've used cheap reels, expensive reels, outrageously expensive reels, and just about everything in between. For the money - in my opinion - you can't beat Penn reels; either spinning or baitcasting. they are not the most expensive, nor are they the cheapest. They will not impress the people around you with their trendiness or bling, they will not announce that you have money to burn, but they will catch fish without failing to operate properly time after time for decades. If you take reasonable care of it, A Penn reel will likely last you for your entire life. Mine have. Don't be misled by those who think that only the latest hot item will do the job. It ain't so. If you know how to fish and how to use your equipment you will succeed. If you do not, then no matter what you buy you will have to develop those skills first.

Captain Amberjack>

Excellent first post Captain Amberjack. Welcome to the forum.

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Originally Posted by DANtheJDMan

And I liked the kind of Snotty Condescending way you eluded that I don't know how to set a drag or tie a leader.:rolleyes:

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The way I read the old "hummingbird adage" was directed at the reel's drag rating, not you. Jus' sayin'

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Originally Posted by FinChaser

The way I read the old "hummingbird adage" was directed at the reel's drag rating, not you. Jus' sayin'

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That is not the part I was talking about.
FWIW a 5 ft shark wouldn't stand a chance against half that much drag with the proper leader, terminal tackle and an angler that knows how to fight a fish.

What does FWIW mean anyway.

Like the new guy said and I said before. A Penn Battle is a nice reel with plenty of guts for the pier. I live far from the beach just the thought of line stripping off a reel and the pole bent straight out makes me travel more than a thousand miles.
What I mean is "Drag was made to use." I'd love to hook up and get spooled but with 20lbs of drag and 300 yards of braid and mono on it the fish is going to have to work at it.

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Originally Posted by DANtheJDMan

What does FWIW mean anyway.

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For What It's Worth

One of the few internet short hands I can tolerate.

Dan, when I said a 5 foot shark wouldn't stand a chance, I no way directed it toward any individual or said anything like "I can but you can't". I was saying the gray suited toothy vermin didn't stand a chance, with conditions. Those being leader, terminal tackle and fish fighting skills. Don't take offense if you are lacking in any of the conditions. If you are, tell us. Most of us here really want to help. We'll make up leaders for you as you watch so you will know. We'll advise you on your setup and choices of terminal tackle. Above all, if you do happen to hook into a good fish (that would be what you consider good, not our opinion of what is good) and we recognize any deficiency in your ability we will stop fishing to coach you through it and help you to the best of our ability.

I know that I make it seem that I have a mouse in my pocket with my extensive use of the word "we" throughout this post. I don't have a mouse, but what I have is a bunch of rats, pier rats that is. I can vouch for them and know them well enough to know that they would do everything I said that they, we and I would do for you or anyone else that doesn't rub us the wrong way.

DRH---And all this time I thought you were saying "we" because you had worms. With me, it's THE VOICES IN MY HEAD. They argue with each other and stir up a bunch of crap, and sometimes it leaks out of my mouth.

I don't know much, but I'm happy to share what I do.

Bring your Stella and ill bring my dogfight lol. I do that with my friend when we're bored to see who's reel got the toughest drag. Right now it's dogfight>stella10k>zeebaas27>van staal250. And my synit rod wins every time.